I still didnt read it lol & Im still waiting on your video presentation to prove that Jesus, God, Illuminati, Masons, Jesuits, Satan, New World Order, Occults, antichrist and Secret Societies, dont exist & everythings going to be ok & everything is going to get better in the world and Obama is going to save us and make the world a better place to live.Originally Posted by 1313Jr.1313
you still haven't read my post... i mean, seriously, you've had over 3 weeks to do so at this point. i read what you had to post and responded accordingly. if your next post is yet more proof that you haven't read my post then you're literally going out of your way to prove that you are an idiot.
Rite Im an idiot cuz I didn't read your post thts basically tellin me that its all flawed and made up after I gave you the information to look up and find out. Im ignorant, slow, retarted and dumber than a 5th grader in your logic. Wow 13 your the smartest most intelligent person in the world. Dang I wish I could be like you LOL.
i'm sure you meant to use real words there so i'm just going to pretend you did. you quoted my post without touching on anything therein. you gave me a start on finding out information (according to you) which i ran into a dead end and upon pointing it out you simply ignored me. quote me having called you retarded. i called you ignorant because you are GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY to IGNORE the content of my posts. that, by definition, makes you ignorant. i called you slow because it's been 3 weeks and you couldn't come up with anything better than this. that would also make you an idiot and this would be me calling you so. in fact, if you look at what you quoted, you literally quoted me telling you that if you post what you did after the quote then you are going out of your way to prove your own idiocy... if you feel that i'm so smart simply because i can use basic reasoning skills and have the ability to research things, then you are fighting an uphill battle.
Well u can go to his website theindustryexposed.com and call him just about the same names and prove to him the same way you proved to me that this is all made up, dumb, ignorant and flawed and see what kind of results you can receive from him. Maybe he might just be 10x more ignorant, flawed, slow & dumb just like me. Give it a try.
did you not read my post? i specifically told you (in one of my posts) that he does not respond to questioning emails and does not allow commenting without approval. i have left many comments pointing out flaws in his reasoning and they have not seen the light of day. not once did i leave an insult (just as i didn't at first to you who i simply thought was misinformed as opposed to ignorant as well). i simply asked him to explain the flaws in his own reasoning and not only did he not, but my comments never made it to the page (or were immediately removed). even though we're not on the same page, i have yet to ban your account, close your threads, or censor you in any way, shape, or form. if you find a flaw in my reasoning then the world (at least the world of our fetish) will see that i am wrong and i have no problem with that. this guy, on the other hand, is not allowing anybody to question him unless he already has the perfect response ready (i'm assuming as i have yet to actually see this come up). so like i said, you are following a guy with a closed mind who refuses discussion outside of how right he is.
Ok then call theforerunner his number is on his youtube channel forget the industryexposed guy I mean what he points out is true about the industry and indeed people do sell their souls for money and fame but this guy doesn't believe in Jesus and that a devil exist which I heard but I watch theforerunner more because he explains the bible better for people to understand, even people who don't believe that Jesus exist and a devil exist and uses real hardcore facts about the industry, the government, etc. What makes him different as well is the fact that the forerunner use to be in the industry when the industryexposed never been so he knws a little more then the industryexposed guy. He hasn't made any videos in a while but what he points out to me after months of research is no surprise at all.
neat... after a VERY small amount of research i found the same problem with commenting on theforerunner. don't believe me? try to leave a comment on one of his vids. it will say that the comment is pending approval. in fact, i have upwards of 8 comments that are still "pending approval" while not one has actually gone through. funny how that works, eh? the guy isn't stupid (if he were then he'd either let me post and try to argue it) but he is closed minded (if he weren't then i'd be able to comment in the first place). if you want to take the word of somebody as fact, then so be it; just know that he is deliberately hiding information from the public and is refusing to look at any information from an opposing perspective (or the comments wouldn't require his approval in the first place) and as such is not the right guy to just believe.
What does the comments have to really do with anything? If anything its better that you argue him on his phone because your not the only one who disagrees and wants to argue him out about the subjects. Even if you or the majority such as yourself who disbelieves, he can careless because he's going to put the truth out there regardless of how you feel about for the past 3 years and you try to put out as many videos as him to debunk the new world order, new age agenda. Im not taking his word for it, Im taking the bible's word for it but thats where you fail to find your research at. Of course you don't believe in God and the bible because it has been rewritten the same ignorant statement as anyone would say to be avert to the bible.. You believe in a college book over a bible any day. What is it exactly that he is hiding, be more specific to your argument. Your too busy talking about comments which has nothing to do with the situation. Even unbelievers like yourself questions him and he allows them to argue about it but it doesn't matter he dosen't want you to rely on him he's to busy telling you to get Christ in your life. He puts all his information on his channel for a reason I bet Alex Jones never does that does he.
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believe it or not, disabling the comments has a lot to do with things. by not allowing opposing views to be seen by the public he prevents any people on his side who are skeptical from changing their own views. if all your life you believe the sky is blue, you'll believe it's blue the first time you hear otherwise; but if your whole life it's questioned then you yourself will question it before somebody even needs to say otherwise. the same applies to his deal. all that disabling comments proves is that he can probably come up with more left field facts that one person can't respond to and can simply claim victory based on their lack of a response. if he allows an actual discussion he will have the internet to deal with (where people can look up facts on their own time instead of having to have an answer prepared for the exact year jesus rose from the grave or something stupid like that [not that the event was stupid, but requiring the knowledge of the year is]).
now, asking me to put out 3 years worth of videos to debunk him is like telling me to put out 3 years worth of videos proving that the earth exists or that 1 + 1 = 2 (and not some complex mathematical proof, the common sense version). how would you propose i prove this? the facts speak for themselves both in those hypothetical arguments and in this one you're attempting to have me prove.
now, the bible is meant to be left open to interpretation. anybody who disputes that simply does not understand the purpose of the bible. yes, the bible can inspire man to do amazing things if interpreted in such a way as to do that, or it can be interpreted in such a way as to attempt a mass genocide. the fact remains that neither of these can be taken as the "wrong" interpretation as the bible itself is meant to be taken as beauty itself is (in the eye of the beholder). any attempt to dispute this is simply ignorant as to the meaning of the bible. we both know this. that being said, no facts may be based of of an interpretation therefore spreading your personal interpretation as fact is, by default, false. unless you yourself are god, it is false and there is no exception. he is passing off his personal interpretation of the bible as fact which means any conclusion he comes to based on that is not factual. that doesn't mean it is incorrect, just that it is nowhere near proven and no real evidence has been provided. in other words, you calling me wrong based on what you percieve as my "lack of evidence" is nothing more than proof that what he says is nonfactual.
that being said, of course i believe in the bible. that does not mean that somebody who has read the bible is suddenly incapable of fault. in fact, as stated in the bible, man is flawed. i would go further but it would be fallacious as that was simply gained from my interpretation of the bible. it is not hard fact and i'm not dumb enough to try to pass it on as though it were. you say that i believe in a college book over a bible and yet for some classes the bible IS a college book. your rebuttal? didn't think so.
now, you want me to tell you what he is hiding? that will be easy. he is hiding the fact that the methods he has used to gain his information are fallacious. he is hiding the fact that he doesn't actually have any hard evidence to prove what he says. he is hiding the fact that everything he says is merely speculation and is easily broken down and disproven. he is hiding the fact that he can not actually back up what he says. if he could then comments would be enabled and he'd trounce all of us with said support and yet they aren't. you don't think that comments are relevant, but simply step outside of yourself and think for a second. how would it reflect on me if i simply closed all of your threads right now so i wouldn't have to deal with them? it would be petty to say the least. now take that feeling and consider that he's already done all of that in advance. if that's not a bitch move then i don't know what is.
now, you say that he allows them to argue about it but you can't do so on his space. that is exactly what the comments being disabled represents (quite literally). he's too busy putting out new videos using the same flawed logic to actually fix his logic. you were close, but this isn't horseshoes... it's life. like i said, if you want to believe in this guy then go ahead, just know that pretty much all of his information is flawed and he is a bad source for information. this is fact and has been proven many many times beyond a shadow of a doubt. just keep in mind that every day you believe him blindly as you do it is just another day that you are continuing to be ignorant. if you can live with that and be happy, then go ahead; just don't confuse it for anything other than what it is.
all that being said, who the fuck is alex jones and how is he relevant?
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