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some argue he is illuminati
He is in league with Obama to make a new world order.
Madonna is in on it too! She made a diamond shape once with her hands. I have youtube videos to back up this claim and will never stop believing this no matter what you say!!
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holy crap, that's hilarious. i haven't laughed this hard at something in a while.
This is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen.
He just jumps from one thing to another.
Its like me saying that Radiators are satanic because they contain hot water, and hot water is symbolic for the river styx in hell, because Lava is hot and Lava is a liquid, like water.
These guys are delusional.
What are you talking about? That don't make sense.Quote:
Originally posted by Benet
This is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen.
He just jumps from one thing to another.
Its like me saying that Radiators are satanic because they contain hot water, and hot water is symbolic for the river styx in hell, because Lava is hot and Lava is a liquid, like water.
These guys are delusional.
made more than the vid... and with less fallacy even.
Can you prove it with as much evidence and sources theforerunner has provided?Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
made more than the vid... and with less fallacy even.
You don't know what evidence is.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophilia
Can you prove it with as much evidence and sources theforerunner has provided?Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
made more than the vid... and with less fallacy even.
All of his videos take some example of something in music and politics, then make a loose comparison to something he says is from "the occult" and claims it's a direct connection. That is not what evidence is.
I'll demonstrate:
"Eprotophilia posts on the internet under a secret name. Terrorists post on the internet under secret names to plan terrorist attacks.
Therefor, Eprotophilia is a terrorist."
Thats all this nut job can do! Just like in the Obama video he went on
"Obama had a healthcare plan. Hitler also had a healthcare plan, therefor, Obama is just like Hitler."
and it goes on, like this:
"Lady GaGa made a triangle shape. The Occult uses triangles. Therefor, Lady GaGa is part of the occult."
Is any of this getting through to you? Do you understand how these arguments are bad arguments? How this is not what evidence is?
terrorists ignore evidence that doesn't support their cause... does epro? :ohmy
Ok so why can't you provide evidence that Obama is the good Guy and is going to save us and that the devil doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally posted by SionDS
You don't know what evidence is.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophilia
Can you prove it with as much evidence and sources theforerunner has provided?Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
made more than the vid... and with less fallacy even.
All of his videos take some example of something in music and politics, then make a loose comparison to something he says is from "the occult" and claims it's a direct connection. That is not what evidence is.
I'll demonstrate:
"Eprotophilia posts on the internet under a secret name. Terrorists post on the internet under secret names to plan terrorist attacks.
Therefor, Eprotophilia is a terrorist."
Thats all this nut job can do! Just like in the Obama video he went on
"Obama had a healthcare plan. Hitler also had a healthcare plan, therefor, Obama is just like Hitler."
and it goes on, like this:
"Lady GaGa made a triangle shape. The Occult uses triangles. Therefor, Lady GaGa is part of the occult."
Is any of this getting through to you? Do you understand how these arguments are bad arguments?
How this is not what evidence is?
Terrorists don't even exist lol America's the terroristQuote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
terrorists ignore evidence that doesn't support their cause... does epro? :ohmy
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Originally posted by eprotophilia
Terrorists don't even exist
the irony is that pretty much sums up every argument you make.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophilia
America's the terrorist
now, proving that the devil does or doesn't exist is impossible as there isn't enough evidence for either side just as it would be impossible to prove or disprove god. also, it's not up to us to prove he's good just to disprove what you say about him being bad and as sion pointed out, they use massive fallacy to make their points. if you call that good logic then i can use the same logic to prove that not only is the devil good, but you are evil and camels can fly. whether or not those things are actually true is irrelevant because the logic used would be TERRIBLY fallacious.
LOL that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If the devil doesn't exist then that means evil doesn't exist because you can't use the word evil in your vocabulary without including the devil. You can't prove that God and the devil don't exist, all you can say is that there's no evidence which is clearly retarded because the bible is the only evidence in the world. Only a fool like yourself would believe that there's no evidence to prove that God exist. You are clearly lost from what the world told you about God.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
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Originally posted by eprotophilia
Terrorists don't even exist
the irony is that pretty much sums up every argument you make.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophilia
America's the terrorist
now, proving that the devil does or doesn't exist is impossible as there isn't enough evidence for either side just as it would be impossible to prove or disprove god
also, it's not up to us to prove he's good just to disprove what you say about him being bad and as sion pointed out, they use massive fallacy to make their points. if you call that good logic then i can use the same logic to prove that not only is the devil good, but you are evil and camels can fly. whether or not those things are actually true is irrelevant because the logic used would be TERRIBLY fallacious.
[quote]Originally posted by eprotophilia
... are you kidding me? seriously?
therefore Buddhists can't use the word evil right? what about atheists? now all of a sudden an entire word is cut from the vocabulary of everybody in the entire world who doesn't agree with you? i've heard some stupid crap on this board. i even had to deal with the cakefarts guy... but you have taken the cake.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaLOL that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If the devil doesn't exist then that means evil doesn't exist because you can't use the word evil in your vocabulary without including the devil.
right... you can't prove that they don't exist. not only that but the only evidence that they do exist is a single book that was written by man. personally, i do believe in a god but that doesn't mean that there's enough evidence to support my opinion. if there was, it wouldn't be an opinion but a fact and therefore nobody would be able to argue with me about it. if you want to say that it's a fact then you logically can no longer argue with me about it so if you say that it is in order to argue with me about it then you are contradicting yourself by default. is that really what we're going to have to deal with? really? are you really that dumb? i guess we'll wait and see.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaYou can't prove that God and the devil don't exist, all you can say is that there's no evidence which is clearly retarded because the bible is the only evidence in the world.
ok then, what is this indisputable evidence that god exists? you clearly have something that is complete proof that god exists that nobody else on the world has ever seen since if they had then there wouldn't be any debate about the matter. you can't use the bible since that was man made and you can't use anything that man has made to explain a being higher than man. i'll be waiting for this.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaOnly a fool like yourself would believe that there's no evidence to prove that God exist.
... that isn't even a coherent sentence. was it supposed to be? if it was then rephrase it in such a way as to make it coherent. until you do, i'm sorry that god didn't bless you with a mind logical enough to be able to comprehend what "evidence" actually entails.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaYou are clearly lost from what the world told you about God.
[quote]Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
So far you still can't prove your side of the fence that God doesn't exist. Buddhist atheist and muslims are all false religions created by the devil to deceive God's people. Just because nobody has seen God doesn't mean he doesn't exist because obviously thats your argument which is typical, cuz I heard it that same trend before. The same people like you argue that there's not enough evidence to prove that God exist yet the same people like you provide zero evidence that he doesn't exist not even 1 clue. As far as the bible, the bible was the first book made, yet I bet you read several books that talk about nothing yet you adopt them as some knowledge, rite. Face it, you and others that I encounter everyday with your weak opinions and false facts about God are dying. In the end its not about what you believe anymore its about what side your going to choose that is either with Jesus or Satan and the bible states that the only way to get to the father is threw Him not through yourself or threw the worlds technology and money. So I advice you to just join with Satan because he has already got a grip on you and your mind cuz Satan his damn self was an Angel and knows God so to be like God he promises you lies to bring you into a better world and deceives you into thinking there's no God or no clear evidence you atheist and blind souls say.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophilia
... are you kidding me? seriously?
therefore Buddhists can't use the word evil right? what about atheists? now all of a sudden an entire word is cut from the vocabulary of everybody in the entire world who doesn't agree with you? i've heard some stupid crap on this board. i even had to deal with the cakefarts guy... but you have taken the cake.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaLOL that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If the devil doesn't exist then that means evil doesn't exist because you can't use the word evil in your vocabulary without including the devil.
right... you can't prove that they don't exist. not only that but the only evidence that they do exist is a single book that was written by man. personally, i do believe in a god but that doesn't mean that there's enough evidence to support my opinion. if there was, it wouldn't be an opinion but a fact and therefore nobody would be able to argue with me about it. if you want to say that it's a fact then you logically can no longer argue with me about it so if you say that it is in order to argue with me about it then you are contradicting yourself by default. is that really what we're going to have to deal with? really? are you really that dumb? i guess we'll wait and see.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaYou can't prove that God and the devil don't exist, all you can say is that there's no evidence which is clearly retarded because the bible is the only evidence in the world.
ok then, what is this indisputable evidence that god exists? you clearly have something that is complete proof that god exists that nobody else on the world has ever seen since if they had then there wouldn't be any debate about the matter. you can't use the bible since that was man made and you can't use anything that man has made to explain a being higher than man. i'll be waiting for this.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaOnly a fool like yourself would believe that there's no evidence to prove that God exist.
... that isn't even a coherent sentence. was it supposed to be? if it was then rephrase it in such a way as to make it coherent. until you do, i'm sorry that god didn't bless you with a mind logical enough to be able to comprehend what "evidence" actually entails.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaYou are clearly lost from what the world told you about God.
There's nothing for me to prove because I don't need to make unbelievers like you believe anything. You need to restore your faith and read the word yourself and adopt a personal relationship with God & Jesus cuz Im tell you now the world will let you down if you mainly rely and trust in them to teach you about God & Jesus. Yea Im a dumbass well I rather be a dumb-ass then to gain the world and loose my soul to the devil thats working in dumb-asses like you. God is blessing me like never before. Its a blessing to not be blind and lost like you. The truth has set me free from mental weaklings like you that cant prove nothing to back up your claim.
i never said that god doesn't exist so you're already proving that you aren't smart enough to understand a simple paragraph.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaSo far you still can't prove your side of the fence that God doesn't exist.
that is an OPINION. stop stating it as fact when it, by default, can't be.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaBuddhist atheist and muslims are all false religions created by the devil to deceive God's people.
you have made it perfectly clear that you would rather just not read my post. way to prove that you're a dipshit.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaJust because nobody has seen God doesn't mean he doesn't exist because obviously thats your argument which is typical, cuz I heard it that same trend before.
i never said that god didn't exist. also, if god did exist then why would got have to be one sex or another? aside from that, here is what i initially said.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaThe same people like you argue that there's not enough evidence to prove that God exist yet the same people like you provide zero evidence that he doesn't exist not even 1 clue.
there is not enough evidence to prove that god does exist just as there isn't enough evidence to prove that god doesn't exist. therefore, arguing either side is absolutely asinine. i am not arguing either side and simply pointing out that your arguments are using the existence of god and satan as a major part of the base which would, by default, discredit what you are saying. to put it in a way you'd understand, "your argument is stupid."
holy crap, that is bad. i didn't realize that people were actually this stupid.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaAs far as the bible, the bible was the first book made
clearly the dictionary isn't one you chose to adopt into your knowledge, "rite"?Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliayet I bet you read several books that talk about nothing yet you adopt them as some knowledge, rite.
oh snap, i just got told. people who don't believe in god are dying. this just supports everything you've said because people who do believe in god DON'T DIE. no, they're immortal... i forgot about that. it completely slipped my mind while i was too busy using actual logic to back up what i was saying instead of resorting to "argumentum ad hitler."Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaFace it, you and others that I encounter everyday with your weak opinions and false facts about God are dying.
yeah? in other words, i can't get to heaven when i die unless i "threw jesus" at some point in my life? that would mean that you're pretty fucked, wouldn't it? after all, you don't know where jesus is buried. oh wait, jesus believed in god and therefore never died and all those martyrs never died either because they're immortal according to you. my bad. then again, an omniscient being would operate on logic which would fuck you even further.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaIn the end its not about what you believe anymore its about what side your going to choose that is either with Jesus or Satan and the bible states that the only way to get to the father is threw Him not through yourself or threw the worlds technology and money.
seriously, just read my post next time. i CLEARLY stated that i believe in god yet you chose to ignore that. have fun not reading this post as well.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaSo I advice you to just join with Satan because he has already got a grip on you and your mind cuz Satan his damn self was an Angel and knows God so to be like God he promises you lies to bring you into a better world and deceives you into thinking there's no God or no clear evidence you atheist and blind souls say.
it's times like these i kind of wish i didn't believe in god since it groups me with morons like you.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaThere's nothing for me to prove because I don't need to make unbelievers like you believe anything. You need to restore your faith and read the word yourself and adopt a personal relationship with God & Jesus cuz Im tell you now the world will let you down if you mainly rely and trust in them to teach you about God & Jesus.
again, learn to read... dumbass.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaYea Im a dumbass well I rather be a dumb-ass then to gain the world and loose my soul to the devil thats working in dumb-asses like you.
honestly, with the amount of reading you're actually doing i honestly thought that you were blind. your entire argument seems to be based on me not believing in god at all which i've already told you i do. next time read before you post. i mean, i don't mind making you look like a little bitch who can't read all day, but you'd think that you'd get tired of it. then again, a moron like you probably wouldn't even know how stupid he looked, would he?Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaGod is blessing me like never before. Its a blessing to not be blind and lost like you. The truth has set me free from mental weaklings like you that cant prove nothing to back up your claim.
If your going to make a statement that there's is not enough evidence to prove that God exist then obviously that means you don't believe in God.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
i never said that god doesn't exist so you're already proving that you aren't smart enough to understand a simple paragraph.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaSo far you still can't prove your side of the fence that God doesn't exist.
that is an OPINION. stop stating it as fact when it, by default, can't be.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaBuddhist atheist and muslims are all false religions created by the devil to deceive God's people.
Buddhist and muslims is a religion based on Idols- an image or representation of a (false) god used as an object of worship.
Atheist people are ignorant, lost and confuse. A mindset created by Satan to distract you from believing in God.
you have made it perfectly clear that you would rather just not read my post. way to prove that you're a dipshit.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaJust because nobody has seen God doesn't mean he doesn't exist because obviously thats your argument which is typical, cuz I heard it that same trend before.
i never said that god didn't exist. also, if god did exist then why would got have to be one sex or another? aside from that, here is what i initially said.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaThe same people like you argue that there's not enough evidence to prove that God exist yet the same people like you provide zero evidence that he doesn't exist not even 1 clue.
Why does little stuff like that even matter? Why don't you believe in God for who he is instead of what he does. Lean not to your own understanding cuz your not gonna figure it out.
there is not enough evidence to prove that god does exist just as there isn't enough evidence to prove that god doesn't exist. therefore, arguing either side is absolutely asinine. i am not arguing either side and simply pointing out that your arguments are using the existence of god and satan as a major part of the base which would, by default, discredit what you are saying. to put it in a way you'd understand, "your argument is stupid."
holy crap, that is bad. i didn't realize that people were actually this stupid.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaAs far as the bible, the bible was the first book made
Ok what was the first book then and who wrote it and what was it about?
clearly the dictionary isn't one you chose to adopt into your knowledge, "rite"?Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliayet I bet you read several books that talk about nothing yet you adopt them as some knowledge, rite.
oh snap, i just got told. people who don't believe in god are dying. this just supports everything you've said because people who do believe in god DON'T DIE. no, they're immortal... i forgot about that. it completely slipped my mind while i was too busy using actual logic to back up what i was saying instead of resorting to "argumentum ad hitler."Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaFace it, you and others that I encounter everyday with your weak opinions and false facts about God are dying.
No you just need to read that again and quit overreacting.
yeah? in other words, i can't get to heaven when i die unless i "threw jesus" at some point in my life? that would mean that you're pretty fucked, wouldn't it? after all, you don't know where jesus is buried. oh wait, jesus believed in god and therefore never died and all those martyrs never died either because they're immortal according to you. my bad. then again, an omniscient being would operate on logic which would fuck you even further.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaIn the end its not about what you believe anymore its about what side your going to choose that is either with Jesus or Satan and the bible states that the only way to get to the father is threw Him not through yourself or threw the worlds technology and money.
seriously, just read my post next time. i CLEARLY stated that i believe in god yet you chose to ignore that. have fun not reading this post as well.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaSo I advice you to just join with Satan because he has already got a grip on you and your mind cuz Satan his damn self was an Angel and knows God so to be like God he promises you lies to bring you into a better world and deceives you into thinking there's no God or no clear evidence you atheist and blind souls say.
If you believed in God then you wouldn't question about enough evidence to prove that he exist because that doesn't matter and clearly shows how faithless you are. Besides you don't believe Satan doesn't exist so how can you believe in God.
it's times like these i kind of wish i didn't believe in god since it groups me with morons like you.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaThere's nothing for me to prove because I don't need to make unbelievers like you believe anything. You need to restore your faith and read the word yourself and adopt a personal relationship with God & Jesus cuz Im tell you now the world will let you down if you mainly rely and trust in them to teach you about God & Jesus.
Good luck with that excuse.
again, learn to read... dumbass.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaYea Im a dumbass well I rather be a dumb-ass then to gain the world and loose my soul to the devil thats working in dumb-asses like you.
honestly, with the amount of reading you're actually doing i honestly thought that you were blind. your entire argument seems to be based on me not believing in god at all which i've already told you i do.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophiliaGod is blessing me like never before. Its a blessing to not be blind and lost like you. The truth has set me free from mental weaklings like you that cant prove nothing to back up your claim.
False because at first I told you to prove that my thread was bullshit which you failed to do which is still the main argument.
next time read before you post. i mean, i don't mind making you look like a little bitch who can't read all day, but you'd think that you'd get tired of it. then again, a moron like you probably wouldn't even know how stupid he looked, would he?
Truly in person I would make you feel more of a little bitch that would call the cops. So how could you accomplish that from typing here, now who feels like a bitch.
Still you remain proof-less of any evidence to backup your claims about what the forerunner said you fail to explain how he's wrong about what he's saying. You and scion cant make a presentation video to debunk forerunner and the industry exposed guy at all. I didn't make those threads to wait on you 2 losers to hate on them and defend your anti-christ Obama but misery loves company as they say.
if you're too lazy to actually step up and back up what you have to say then at least say so. you don't have to come here and say "well fuck you so there you're wrong i'm right lol wtf." now, you are linking two things that are not involved. it is a FACT that there is not enough evidence to PROVE OR DISPROVE the existence of god, therefore it is up to each individual to make that decision for themselves. personally, i believe in god but i'm also smart enough to acknowledge that there is not enough evidence to prove that god exists. i mean, i'm spelling this out as well as i can for you. the existence of god can not be proven. it can not be disproven. anybody telling you otherwise is talking out of their ass. 99.9% of all arguments that "prove" that god exists involve simple circular logic. that being said, i still choose to believe in god. does that make me right? no. does that make me wrong? no. i made my decision but i did not make it based on false logic.
as for what the youtube guy says, every single one of his arguments simply commits the composition fallacy and without it (or by knowing what it is) his argument falls apart. of course, you both also choose to commit the following fallacies:
ad hominem, ad hominem tu quoque, begging the question, ad ignorantium, false dilemma, genetic fallacy, guilt by association, hasty generalization, ignoring a common cause, ad hominem abusive // poisoning the well, red herring, composition, slippery slope, spotlighting, and straw man fallacy.
if you want to use fallacy as your main support then either do it somewhere else, stop using it, or stop bitching when i point it out. if you would like to continue using it then don't be surprised when you end up looking like a little bitch who knows NOTHING. i mean, at least the youtube guy uses correct grammar (almost all the way through... and yes, i actually sat through that crap for you). i mean, you edited your post twice and it STILL sucks ass and your first sentence is just stupid (but at least it's a complete sentence).
Your excuses makes you faithless to believing in the truth about the world being in control by the devil to control people to build his work otherwise you wouldn't have laws just like when he said Satan copies God and you don't know who God is to you in your life, you know more of the knownledge about the worlds cultures and meanings to their personal life then God & Jesus. You read plenty worldly books that don't edify truth. Your feelings get in the way of your faith.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
if you're too lazy to actually step up and back up what you have to say then at least say so. you don't have to come here and say "well fuck you so there you're wrong i'm right lol wtf." now, you are linking two things that are not involved. it is a FACT that there is not enough evidence to PROVE OR DISPROVE the existence of god, therefore it is up to each individual to make that decision for themselves. personally, i believe in god but i'm also smart enough to acknowledge that there is not enough evidence to prove that god exists. i mean, i'm spelling this out as well as i can for you. the existence of god can not be proven. it can not be disproven. anybody telling you otherwise is talking out of their ass. 99.9% of all arguments that "prove" that god exists involve simple circular logic. that being said, i still choose to believe in god. does that make me right? no. does that make me wrong? no. i made my decision but i did not make it based on false logic.
as for what the youtube guy says, every single one of his arguments simply commits the composition fallacy and without it (or by knowing what it is) his argument falls apart. of course, you both also choose to commit the following fallacies:
ad hominem, ad hominem tu quoque, begging the question, ad ignorantium, false dilemma, genetic fallacy, guilt by association, hasty generalization, ignoring a common cause, ad hominem abusive // poisoning the well, red herring, composition, slippery slope, spotlighting, and straw man fallacy.
if you want to use fallacy as your main support then either do it somewhere else, stop using it, or stop bitching when i point it out. if you would like to continue using it then don't be surprised when you end up looking like a little bitch who knows NOTHING. i mean, at least the youtube guy uses correct grammar (almost all the way through... and yes, i actually sat through that crap for you). i mean, you edited your post twice and it STILL sucks ass and your first sentence is just stupid (but at least it's a complete sentence).
... can you please type that up in english? i'm not going to bother to translate that from whatever fucked up language that is. or, can somebody else please sum that up for me? it would appear that epro no longer has the ability to express what he wants to say in english.
The majority like yourself say the same thing and claim its a fact and neither of that majority can't prove its wrong.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... can you please type that up in english? i'm not going to bother to translate that from whatever fucked up language that is. or, can somebody else please sum that up for me? it would appear that epro no longer has the ability to express what he wants to say in english.
if the majority said what i said about how fallacious that video is then people wouldn't believe it at all. unfortunately the majority believes that the government is out to get them (regardless of whether or not they are) and will believe anything as long as they believe that "the government doesn't want them to know about it." i mean, zeitgeist 2 (sp?) basically takes simple economics, makes it sound like it's dark and evil, does the same with banking, does the same with businesses, then uses that to promote communism. while communism isn't bad, the logic in that movie is greatly flawed regardless. by basically saying that the government doesn't want you to know about it, it tells you about basic economics and makes the government look bad in doing so. the worst part is that people are just educated enough to get ahold of these things but not educated enough to actually properly look at them and blindly take what they say based on the fact that they "shouldn't know" these things. if the majority knew basic logic then we wouldn't be in this situation.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
read that then watch the vid again. especially take a look at the composition fallacy as that is what the majority of the vid is based on. also, that last sentence you typed would imply that everybody can "prove its wrong" due to your double negative.
The majority doesn't know that the government is being controlled by the illuminati and freemasonry. The majority believe everything thats on T.V. and the education they were taught from the government. So clearly this guy like everybody including you, use this worldly logic by no surprise to adopt it as truth to what's really going on which is false. If there's not enough evidence to prove that God exist then mayby your better off with Satan and the fallen angels.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
if the majority said what i said about how fallacious that video is then people wouldn't believe it at all. unfortunately the majority believes that the government is out to get them (regardless of whether or not they are) and will believe anything as long as they believe that "the government doesn't want them to know about it." i mean, zeitgeist 2 (sp?) basically takes simple economics, makes it sound like it's dark and evil, does the same with banking, does the same with businesses, then uses that to promote communism. while communism isn't bad, the logic in that movie is greatly flawed regardless. by basically saying that the government doesn't want you to know about it, it tells you about basic economics and makes the government look bad in doing so. the worst part is that people are just educated enough to get ahold of these things but not educated enough to actually properly look at them and blindly take what they say based on the fact that they "shouldn't know" these things. if the majority knew basic logic then we wouldn't be in this situation.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
read that then watch the vid again. especially take a look at the composition fallacy as that is what the majority of the vid is based on. also, that last sentence you typed would imply that everybody can "prove its wrong" due to your double negative.
This is an example of a worldly logic with false facts and opinions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dp9OgWvj0k
The majority doesn't know that the government is being controlled by the illuminati and freemasonry. The majority believe everything thats on T.V. and the education they were taught from the government. So clearly this guy like everybody including you, use this worldly logic by no surprise to adopt it as truth to what's really going on which is false. If there's not enough evidence to prove that God exist then maybe your better off with Satan and the fallen angels.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
if the majority said what i said about how fallacious that video is then people wouldn't believe it at all. unfortunately the majority believes that the government is out to get them (regardless of whether or not they are) and will believe anything as long as they believe that "the government doesn't want them to know about it." i mean, zeitgeist 2 (sp?) basically takes simple economics, makes it sound like it's dark and evil, does the same with banking, does the same with businesses, then uses that to promote communism. while communism isn't bad, the logic in that movie is greatly flawed regardless. by basically saying that the government doesn't want you to know about it, it tells you about basic economics and makes the government look bad in doing so. the worst part is that people are just educated enough to get ahold of these things but not educated enough to actually properly look at them and blindly take what they say based on the fact that they "shouldn't know" these things. if the majority knew basic logic then we wouldn't be in this situation.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
read that then watch the vid again. especially take a look at the composition fallacy as that is what the majority of the vid is based on. also, that last sentence you typed would imply that everybody can "prove its wrong" due to your double negative.
This is an example of a worldly logic with false facts and opinions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dp9OgWvj0k
that video shows fucked up logic as well. in fact, it's the EXACT SAME LOGIC that the videos that you're providing have been giving. that video commits the same fallacies that yours do so by calling that bullshit you're calling yours bullshit as well. can you at least see the problem that i'm seeing here? logic is factual and DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING on its own. it is more of a rubric for providing arguments. it gives simple rules to follow and if you had read that link (as i do yours) then you wouldn't be talking like such a dipshit right now. seriously, you couldn't come up with this pile of shit yesterday when you were logged on then? seriously? it took you two full days to NOT provide any evidence to support your claim and just look dumber?
to quote jesus christ, "Each child shall choose whether or not to follow their parents on their own, but you on the other hand are a complete dumbass."
Of course the video is bullshit duh, that person is another unbeliever like yourself. Falsely that video doesn't show the same fallacy as the Jay-z Deception. The guy clearly gives you evidence and breaks it all down simply for you to understand and not just talks about Jay-z. For example the "do what thou wilt" shirt he had on was indeed from aleister crowley's book. You can't argue that at all. Your the real dumb ass if you want to try to call that bullshit. It says it right on the shirt he's wearing. Like you who provides no evidence and tells me to go to school to learn about the government. Let me tell you I neva believed the bullshit I was taught about the government in school cuz I always knew it was bullshit. You are just as dumb as the world who believes the same bullshit the school taught you because I know smart idiots who read plenty of books about nothing and are still blind from the real facts that the government hides.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
that video shows fucked up logic as well. in fact, it's the EXACT SAME LOGIC that the videos that you're providing have been giving. that video commits the same fallacies that yours do so by calling that bullshit you're calling yours bullshit as well. can you at least see the problem that i'm seeing here? logic is factual and DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING on its own. it is more of a rubric for providing arguments. it gives simple rules to follow and if you had read that link (as i do yours) then you wouldn't be talking like such a dipshit right now. seriously, you couldn't come up with this pile of shit yesterday when you were logged on then? seriously? it took you two full days to NOT provide any evidence to support your claim and just look dumber?
to quote jesus christ, "Each child shall choose whether or not to follow their parents on their own, but you on the other hand are a complete dumbass."
This is an ex FBI veteran who breaks it all down about the illuminati and this footage is old, so lets see you try to debunk this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTkwq4TFQk
1, the video, despite being longer, still commits the same fallacies. just because he "breaks down the evidence" doesn't mean that it's any less fallacious. in fact, there's actually a fallacy for breaking down the information further than is relevant in order to come to a conclusion that is preferable to what is true (like any of those "i can prove that 1 + 1 is not 2" videos on youtube).
2, saying that somebody following some fad is indisputable proof is COMPLETELY ignorant. you call me a dumbass for saying that a fad isn't proof. yeah... way to go. that would make you STILL the dumbass.
3, you're saying that i provide no evidence to calling your bullshit bullshit, but i have given many breakdowns of the logic and you yourself have agreed that they're wrong... just not when they apply to your things for some reason.
4, you sound like you're talking about basic american history from high school. i was talking about a college course that actually starts from the beginning. in fact, you can clearly see where ignorant people would start to get their facts mixed up and believe in bullshit like the illuminati and the under one god district and all of that other crap.
5, i am as dumb as a planet? where the fuck did that come from?
6, you are clearly blinded by all of these youtube videos and are blinded by them saying that you shouldn't know this stuff. if the government and satan really did have this much control then you could bet your ass that these videos would no longer exist and all creators of them would have been killed by now. that alone proves that you're full of shit. also, they haven't been removed since they've been put up.
7, about your video... see number 6. also, ad vericundium.
8, i gave you indisputable evidence that you're full of shit via a simple link to logic to at least educate you and here you are providing more bullshit and ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
9, all of the comments on those vids are supporting them... why is that? you say that the masses are uneducated but it would appear that the masses support those vids. by your logic, people who support those vids are uneducated. now, follow me for a second. you support those vids. therefore you are like the masses and are also uneducated. BAM, suck on that. as was said in a movie with no political value whatsoever, "You are just too dumb to insult." are you about to reply with a "Thanks"?
10, see epro-crusher.
13 prove your shit. How does Satan n God don't exist? How is it that the illuminati don't exist? Why is it fallacy? What evidence can you provide to prove that all of this does not exist? You believe everything Obama says rite? You believe everything you was taught in college rite? You believe anything that the news media will tell you. There's nothing you can provide to prove that the government is the good guys. You are clearly the dumbass with a college education just like everyone else that thinks there smart just because they brought their weak ass in school and frankly you don't have to go to college to get a career job. Its still people who wasted 1000's of dollars that are unemployed and end up working at a job that don't require a degree. Really a lot of people on this forum don't like you but they want tell you because Im sure they don't want to get banned, for they want to get their active membership. There's nothing else for me to prove to your lost soul. You don't believe in God and the bible so I see that Satan has recruited you for his work. So you choose to stay in the dark, blind and in the end you will be begging on your knees like a bitch asking for forgiveness and fucked by the government.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
1, the video, despite being longer, still commits the same fallacies. just because he "breaks down the evidence" doesn't mean that it's any less fallacious. in fact, there's actually a fallacy for breaking down the information further than is relevant in order to come to a conclusion that is preferable to what is true (like any of those "i can prove that 1 + 1 is not 2" videos on youtube).
2, saying that somebody following some fad is indisputable proof is COMPLETELY ignorant. you call me a dumbass for saying that a fad isn't proof. yeah... way to go. that would make you STILL the dumbass.
3, you're saying that i provide no evidence to calling your bullshit bullshit, but i have given many breakdowns of the logic and you yourself have agreed that they're wrong... just not when they apply to your things for some reason.
4, you sound like you're talking about basic american history from high school. i was talking about a college course that actually starts from the beginning. in fact, you can clearly see where ignorant people would start to get their facts mixed up and believe in bullshit like the illuminati and the under one god district and all of that other crap.
5, i am as dumb as a planet? where the fuck did that come from?
6, you are clearly blinded by all of these youtube videos and are blinded by them saying that you shouldn't know this stuff. if the government and satan really did have this much control then you could bet your ass that these videos would no longer exist and all creators of them would have been killed by now. that alone proves that you're full of shit. also, they haven't been removed since they've been put up.
7, about your video... see number 6. also, ad vericundium.
8, i gave you indisputable evidence that you're full of shit via a simple link to logic to at least educate you and here you are providing more bullshit and ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
9, all of the comments on those vids are supporting them... why is that? you say that the masses are uneducated but it would appear that the masses support those vids. by your logic, people who support those vids are uneducated. now, follow me for a second. you support those vids. therefore you are like the masses and are also uneducated. BAM, suck on that. as was said in a movie with no political value whatsoever, "You are just too dumb to insult." are you about to reply with a "Thanks"?
10, see epro-crusher.
If your going to comment please provide some evidence. Your speeches are irrelevant with nothing to back it up. Where is scion did he punk out because he didn't provide any evidence just like you?
1, people have told me many times that they don't like me and i have yet to ban a single person. each person is entitled to their own opinion. that's the same reason i haven't banned you despite you insulting me in every post. now, i can't trace who leaves ratings but there's a reason that i'm close to 10 and you're down in the 1 area. that's how your shit got ruined right there... did you see that? i totally provided evidence to back my claim just like i have been this whole time BUT GUESS WHAT!!! you're going to sidestep the whole thing like you have been this whole time. have fun being ignorant.Quote:
Originally posted by eprotophilia
13 prove your shit. How does Satan n God don't exist? How is it that the illuminati don't exist? Why is it fallacy? What evidence can you provide to prove that all of this does not exist? You believe everything Obama says rite? You believe everything you was taught in college rite? You believe anything that the news media will tell you. There's nothing you can provide to prove that the government is the good guys. You are clearly the dumbass with a college education just like everyone else that thinks there smart just because they brought their weak ass in school and frankly you don't have to go to college to get a career job. Its still people who wasted 1000's of dollars that are unemployed and end up working at a job that don't require a degree. Really a lot of people on this forum don't like you but they want tell you because Im sure they don't want to get banned, for they want to get their active membership. There's nothing else for me to prove to your lost soul. You don't believe in God and the bible so I see that Satan has recruited you for his work. So you choose to stay in the dark, blind and in the end you will be begging on your knees like a bitch asking for forgiveness and fucked by the government.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
1, the video, despite being longer, still commits the same fallacies. just because he "breaks down the evidence" doesn't mean that it's any less fallacious. in fact, there's actually a fallacy for breaking down the information further than is relevant in order to come to a conclusion that is preferable to what is true (like any of those "i can prove that 1 + 1 is not 2" videos on youtube).
2, saying that somebody following some fad is indisputable proof is COMPLETELY ignorant. you call me a dumbass for saying that a fad isn't proof. yeah... way to go. that would make you STILL the dumbass.
3, you're saying that i provide no evidence to calling your bullshit bullshit, but i have given many breakdowns of the logic and you yourself have agreed that they're wrong... just not when they apply to your things for some reason.
4, you sound like you're talking about basic american history from high school. i was talking about a college course that actually starts from the beginning. in fact, you can clearly see where ignorant people would start to get their facts mixed up and believe in bullshit like the illuminati and the under one god district and all of that other crap.
5, i am as dumb as a planet? where the fuck did that come from?
6, you are clearly blinded by all of these youtube videos and are blinded by them saying that you shouldn't know this stuff. if the government and satan really did have this much control then you could bet your ass that these videos would no longer exist and all creators of them would have been killed by now. that alone proves that you're full of shit. also, they haven't been removed since they've been put up.
7, about your video... see number 6. also, ad vericundium.
8, i gave you indisputable evidence that you're full of shit via a simple link to logic to at least educate you and here you are providing more bullshit and ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
9, all of the comments on those vids are supporting them... why is that? you say that the masses are uneducated but it would appear that the masses support those vids. by your logic, people who support those vids are uneducated. now, follow me for a second. you support those vids. therefore you are like the masses and are also uneducated. BAM, suck on that. as was said in a movie with no political value whatsoever, "You are just too dumb to insult." are you about to reply with a "Thanks"?
10, see epro-crusher.
If your going to comment please provide some evidence. Your speeches are irrelevant with nothing to back it up. Where is scion did he punk out because he didn't provide any evidence just like you?
2, i've provided evidence and you're just ignoring it. i've disproved everything you've said and you're just ignoring it. at first i didn't think that you were that stupid but here you are.
3, i never told you to get a degree... just an education since you are a very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very uneducated individual.
4, stop being ignorant. seriously... if you want to have a real chat about the way the world actually works then come back, but i can only hand your ass to you so many times before your ass falls off. this kind of ignorance is what hitler based his ideas on and it turns out that people like you are directly responsible for the holocaust.
5, in my last post you forgot to touch on the following points: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. yeah, you're that dumb.
Ugh, I actually never wanted to speak on this, i'd think it was a bunch of nonsense but I don't know now. Even my younger brother did some research & well there is a christian rapper who chose to stand up to Jay-Z. Later on this week, i'll mention stuff I heard that I don't believe but nowadays you never know. Here's the rapper's 2 youtubes. 1 shows the lyrics & the other shows pics of what dude is talking about where he feels Jay & some others are worshipping the devil. Ugh, why people gotta be like this? It ain't even worth it. Haven't they seen Ghost Rider?
diss song with lyrics on vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGasbcOhHho
vid with pics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC-f_HZTp60
The jews are controlling more than the Obama administration now. Just look at this!
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7638/1238975437602.jpg
The Illuminati probably isn't all that bad. I haven't heard anything yet convincing me that we actually need to be afraid of them.
In all seriousness, this is the 90's all over again. Mc Hammer was pushing his Norse mythology agenda on America's youth and worshiped the Norse god Thor.
Much like the cross is in Christianity, the hammer is perhaps the strongest symbol in Norse Mythology. MC Hammer took his name after the hammer because he was a Thor worshipper, and glorifies the hammer still to this day. The phrase "Hammer time" was likely a call to convert to his pegan religion to further push his norse agenda.
Ill show you the proof:
http://baseballsnatcher.mlblogs.com/MC-Hammer11.jpg
http://www.infomercial-hell.com/blog..._mc_hammer.jpg
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...ges-3/thor.jpg
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/still...-god-movie.jpg
If you dont believe me, you can read more about the hammer here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mj%C3%B6llnir
no offense hoof, but a dis vid is hardly indisputable evidence that satan exists (much less is trying to take over the world).
Ah the power of the internets.
I was just telling everyone of what I heard.Quote:
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
no offense hoof, but a dis vid is hardly indisputable evidence that satan exists (much less is trying to take over the world).
Actually Sion, Stanley Burrell aka McHammer got that nickname because of Hammerin Hank Aaron. Over a decade ago, Hammer did talk about some rappers in some ways worshipping the devil on TBN. I didn't see it, a couple of relatives were watching it when he said it. Didn't mention who.
i heard that some group from the da vinci code was out to conquer the world... then again i heard that from epro and immediately set his ass straight.
You thought you did I just didn't feel like replying cuz I can't make you believe it even if I give you the evidence that you say is not evidence.
The answer to if Satan exist which he use to be called Lucifer. Isaiah 14:12-14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfUhoHc-HB8
firstly, i doubt that there was a sentence fragment in the bible so please don't bother trying to pass that shit off as fact.
check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTuoq6Tr3gE
see that? it's a link. i guess that now i've matched what you've done. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!! it didn't take me 4 months to come up with this. you have yet to disprove shit i've said and your most recent post does nothing but reinforce it. if you give me indisputable evidence then i won't argue (partly because, by definition, i won't be able, to but mostly because i actually admit when i'm wrong), but you have yet to do so. "YES I HAVES, u IZ idoit LOLZ>" seriously, i thought you took the right move by backing down. given, the smartest move would be backing down with an apology but the least you could have done was just back down but since you can't do that much...