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  1. #11
    Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
    ok, that's different, lol. i thought that you were actually making the argument that if pirating keeps up then the music would disappear. in fact, there are a few self supported bands that control every aspect of themselves and they say that pirating music is not a bad thing, but a good thing. any band signed to a record company are essentially brainwashed into the idea that pirating music is a bad thing. if you are going to pay to show your support for a band or movie, then i fully support that. it's when someone pays to show support for paying that they start to make no sense. the film industry is the same way. the more people that do pirating of movies, the more "little guys" will be out there and the less of a monopoly the film industry will have, creating a better market. movie theaters in california have recently bumped their prices up by around $2 (by almost 1/5) and say that it's because of pirating that they have to increase the price. the real reasons lie in taxing (if they make enough, they pay LESS taxes), the fact that there will always be moviegoers, and inflation. pirating plays NO role there, but again if you pay to support the movie then that's good. also, the big screen experience isn't exactly replaceable, lol.
    It's funny that the big business's are trying to market off of the pirating with bullshit.
    With what you're saying it almost seems like it is helping the big business' by pirating, but that whole debate is not black and white.
    Yea the MP3 filesharing has helped indies out, but that is just by little exposure, what has really helped them out are things like youtube and myspace.
    I just can't really see anyone saying, "stealing our art is helping us out"
    I do see how it gave them some exposure, for example, a friend comes by and loans me a CD of some local band, and pops it on my laptop. Now I know of them, and since they're local, and I like them, I am going to go check their shows out.
    But that's little compared to what they would lose if I file shared the shit out of their CD. Even if a few who got wind of it from my actions went and saw them live because of it.



    Here's a different thought, kind of on the same subject though.
    The people who steal the most stuff be it movies and music, are the people who can afford to.
    For example, a kick ass computer that can hold tons of movies and music, with a kick ass connection is not cheap.
    The people who cannot afford that kind of equipment will end up having to pay the high prices just to take their families out to theatres.
    This is all just personal theory.
    I guess lately I've been feeling guilty about a lot of things. Maybe the world is getting crazy, and it's affecting me in some bizarre ways.
    I'm even starting to feel bad about my actions during road rage lately.

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    big businesses aren't helped out by pirating, but the amount that they are hurt is insignificant. any music videos that you see on youtube that aren't hosted by or with permission from the artists ARE pirated. if you see a clip from a movie on youtube; pirated.

    on the note of buying the computer... the computer that i have costed me about 400 dollars and by now could be gotten for three. i have enough bandwidth to fully pirate and it really was cheap. if somebody has a logical reason to not "pirate" then i'm willing to listen, but i haven't heard one yet and when researching one i only find reasons to the contrary.

  3. #13
    i would think that artists would want more and more people listening to their music, and if kids don't want to pay to listen to their music they shouldnt have to. From this it would widen the amount of people listening to their music and making them possibly go to their concerts. Just look at what Radiohead did by making "In Rainbows" downloadable.

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    Radiohead rulezzz !

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    Originally posted by Guuut
    i would think that artists would want more and more people listening to their music, and if kids don't want to pay to listen to their music they shouldnt have to. From this it would widen the amount of people listening to their music and making them possibly go to their concerts. Just look at what Radiohead did by making "In Rainbows" downloadable.
    exactly, and radiohead isn't even the first group to do this.

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