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eprotophilia
7th December 2009, 04:06 AM
http://theindustryexposed.com/

The industry series is provided to help you understand the occult influences in the music industry and the symbolism used hidden in plain sight.

ras_sham
11th December 2009, 03:59 PM
i didn't follow your link, but please at least post a description when posting a link. Telll us why it might interest us. Otherwise it feels like spam...

eprotophilia
11th December 2009, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by ras_sham
i didn't follow your link, but please at least post a description when posting a link. Telll us why it might interest us. Otherwise it feels like spam...Theres nothing wrong with the link all you have to do is click it and the title is self explanatory plus it tells you what its all about on the site but Im give u a description anyway.

SionDS
11th December 2009, 07:22 PM
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gaagchrist2-copy.jpg

In this choreography, Gaga does what looks like the sign of the cross but her hand gesture describes a triangle instead (classic phallic symbol). Enjoy my brilliantly drawn triangle to help you visualize it.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gaagsun1.jpg

Image of the sun in the razorblade shades. She is wearing a golden dress. Gold is representative of the sun in occultism.


Wow, the author of this site is a genius.

eprotophilia
20th December 2009, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by SionDS
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gaagchrist2-copy.jpg

In this choreography, Gaga does what looks like the sign of the cross but her hand gesture describes a triangle instead (classic phallic symbol). Enjoy my brilliantly drawn triangle to help you visualize it.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gaagsun1.jpg

Image of the sun in the razorblade shades. She is wearing a golden dress. Gold is representative of the sun in occultism.


Wow, the author of this site is a genius.Its too bad 1313Jr.1313 thinks differently and can't debunk it.

1313Jr.1313
21st December 2009, 10:34 AM
... there's nothing to debunk, lol. also, i agree with sion as he was using sarcasm. at first, i seriously thought that the entire site was sarcasm because only a complete dipshit would believe in it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

there you go, same arguments therefore you also support that. way to go epro.

eprotophilia
21st December 2009, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... there's nothing to debunk, lol. also, i agree with sion as he was using sarcasm. at first, i seriously thought that the entire site was sarcasm because only a complete dipshit would believe in it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

there you go, same arguments therefore you also support that. way to go epro.Ok thats cool, you can go ahead and believe what the government tells you that is true according to them.

1313Jr.1313
22nd December 2009, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by eprotophilia

Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... there's nothing to debunk, lol. also, i agree with sion as he was using sarcasm. at first, i seriously thought that the entire site was sarcasm because only a complete dipshit would believe in it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

there you go, same arguments therefore you also support that. way to go epro.Ok thats cool, you can go ahead and believe what the government tells you that is true according to them.

who said i believed anything that the government has told me? in fact, the government hasn't said shit to me therefore there's nothing to believe or disbelieve. look, if satan was in this plane as stated in that pile of shit, then they would have simply died for putting that crap up there and it would have been removed and all memories wiped. the fact that that hasn't happened is proof that it's bullshit. if you want to go ahead and believe things that have been disproven... well, nobody here has prevented you from being a dumbass thus far.

eprotophilia
22nd December 2009, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313

Originally posted by eprotophilia

Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... there's nothing to debunk, lol. also, i agree with sion as he was using sarcasm. at first, i seriously thought that the entire site was sarcasm because only a complete dipshit would believe in it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

there you go, same arguments therefore you also support that. way to go epro.Ok thats cool, you can go ahead and believe what the government tells you that is true according to them.

who said i believed anything that the government has told me? in fact, the government hasn't said shit to me therefore there's nothing to believe or disbelieve. look, if satan was in this plane as stated in that pile of shit, then they would have simply died for putting that crap up there and it would have been removed and all memories wiped. the fact that that hasn't happened is proof that it's bullshit. if you want to go ahead and believe things that have been disproven... well, nobody here has prevented you from being a dumbass thus far.Oh really. Prove it then.

1313Jr.1313
23rd December 2009, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by eprotophilia

Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313

Originally posted by eprotophilia

Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... there's nothing to debunk, lol. also, i agree with sion as he was using sarcasm. at first, i seriously thought that the entire site was sarcasm because only a complete dipshit would believe in it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

there you go, same arguments therefore you also support that. way to go epro.Ok thats cool, you can go ahead and believe what the government tells you that is true according to them.

who said i believed anything that the government has told me? in fact, the government hasn't said shit to me therefore there's nothing to believe or disbelieve. look, if satan was in this plane as stated in that pile of shit, then they would have simply died for putting that crap up there and it would have been removed and all memories wiped. the fact that that hasn't happened is proof that it's bullshit. if you want to go ahead and believe things that have been disproven... well, nobody here has prevented you from being a dumbass thus far.Oh really. Prove it then.

ok, i'll prove it. you are being a dumbass right now and have been for some time. the fact that you still are is proof that nobody has prevented you from being one. that's proof. you're welcome.

eprotophilia
23rd December 2009, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313

Originally posted by eprotophilia

Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313

Originally posted by eprotophilia

Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... there's nothing to debunk, lol. also, i agree with sion as he was using sarcasm. at first, i seriously thought that the entire site was sarcasm because only a complete dipshit would believe in it.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

there you go, same arguments therefore you also support that. way to go epro.Ok thats cool, you can go ahead and believe what the government tells you that is true according to them.

who said i believed anything that the government has told me? in fact, the government hasn't said shit to me therefore there's nothing to believe or disbelieve. look, if satan was in this plane as stated in that pile of shit, then they would have simply died for putting that crap up there and it would have been removed and all memories wiped. the fact that that hasn't happened is proof that it's bullshit. if you want to go ahead and believe things that have been disproven... well, nobody here has prevented you from being a dumbass thus far.Oh really. Prove it then.

ok, i'll prove it. you are being a dumbass right now and have been for some time. the fact that you still are is proof that nobody has prevented you from being one. that's proof. you're welcome.LOL exactly, you can't.

1313Jr.1313
24th December 2009, 08:10 AM
... i just did. in fact, your response just proves it further. way to support me.

eprotophilia
24th December 2009, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
... i just did. in fact, your response just proves it further. way to support me.Nope, you can't cuz you suck.

This must be shit to I already know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otti-82jEAc&autoplay=1

1313Jr.1313
25th December 2009, 11:14 AM
i completely proved that nobody can stop you from being a dumbass. as for disproving what you're SAYING... well, disproving an argument that is barely based on loose connections between things that aren't even necessarily connected wouldn't make sense since only an idiot would try to push the connection to begin with. all that would have to be said is "the connection isn't even there" or "fallacy."

i mean, the fallacies that you are using that i can point out off of the top of my head right now out are as follows:

ad hominem, ad hominem tu quoque, begging the question, ad ignorantium, false dilemma, genetic fallacy, guilt by association, hasty generalization, ignoring a common cause, ad hominem abusive // poisoning the well, red herring, composition, slippery slope, spotlighting, and straw man fallacy.

every vid you've shown commits the composition fallacy as THEIR MAIN SUPPORT. i mean, really... that's just ridiculous. it's like you're going out of your way to build a badly structured argument. if you already know this then you're being sarcastic about supporting them and i hereby laugh at your joke, but if you're being serious then you are WAY below windfan which is painfully low on the smarts scale.

eprotophilia
26th December 2009, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
i completely proved that nobody can stop you from being a dumbass. as for disproving what you're SAYING... well, disproving an argument that is barely based on loose connections between things that aren't even necessarily connected wouldn't make sense since only an idiot would try to push the connection to begin with. all that would have to be said is "the connection isn't even there" or "fallacy."

i mean, the fallacies that you are using that i can point out off of the top of my head right now out are as follows:

ad hominem, ad hominem tu quoque, begging the question, ad ignorantium, false dilemma, genetic fallacy, guilt by association, hasty generalization, ignoring a common cause, ad hominem abusive // poisoning the well, red herring, composition, slippery slope, spotlighting, and straw man fallacy.

every vid you've shown commits the composition fallacy as THEIR MAIN SUPPORT. i mean, really... that's just ridiculous. it's like you're going out of your way to build a badly structured argument. if you already know this then you're being sarcastic about supporting them and i hereby laugh at your joke, but if you're being serious then you are WAY below windfan which is painfully low on the smarts scale.Fallacy is your excuse to proof that I'm wrong again, prove it with truth instead of your feelings and opinions about it unless you can tell me what is really going on and what is Satan doing.

1313Jr.1313
26th December 2009, 10:07 AM
are you seriously this dumb? i disproved your videos using THE CONTENT IN THE VIDEOS. i proved that they are not adequately proven and the burden of proof goes back on you. want to know what fallacies your previous statement alone commits?

no joke... here they are: ad hominem, ad hominem tuquoque, begging the question, ad ignorantium, false dilemma, hasty generalization, ad hominem abusive.

i'm not even kidding. i showed that the logic was flawed so it would be up to you to provide non-flawed logic to support the point otherwise your argument is null. if your next response here doesn't provide said proof then i will simply point you back here (over and over again until you do). have fun making that decision.

eprotophilia
26th December 2009, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
are you seriously this dumb? i disproved your videos using THE CONTENT IN THE VIDEOS. i proved that they are not adequately proven and the burden of proof goes back on you. want to know what fallacies your previous statement alone commits?

no joke... here they are: ad hominem, ad hominem tuquoque, begging the question, ad ignorantium, false dilemma, hasty generalization, ad hominem abusive.

i'm not even kidding. i showed that the logic was flawed so it would be up to you to provide non-flawed logic to support the point otherwise your argument is null. if your next response here doesn't provide said proof then i will simply point you back here (over and over again until you do). have fun making that decision.How can you say you proved it was wrong just by simply saying its wrong without any evidence. All you said was words which are irrelevant to what your talking about or whatever false truth your trying to provide.

The industry is not going to reveal these things to us you idiot. The video directors and people that tell them what to do on the video set provide these symbols and use the puppets to perform them. WHy is it so hard for you not to understand that yo been lied to in front of you and deceived.

The only way to find out is to research what your watching and listening to and you'll see it is a controlled system so you can feel like its ok to believe everything the TV and news tell you and agree to it simply because they said it. Thats all your doing is saying its false without nothing to throw at me so you remain scoreless to provide me real truth.

1313Jr.1313
27th December 2009, 12:38 PM
i said that the video contradicted itself and used fallacy to further do so. read my previous post (hereby referred to as the epro-crusher) again. you want me to provide an actual website comprised of the many fallacies you commit? will that be enough? fine, here you go:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

while slightly flawed (a few things are mislabeled but that's all) that should be plenty for you to look over. once you read that then come back and learn to argue properly. note that this website should be added to the epro-crusher. if you can read that and still not believe that your vids are a pile of shit then you clearly didn't read it so read it again.

eprotophilia
28th December 2009, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
i said that the video contradicted itself and used fallacy to further do so. read my previous post (hereby referred to as the epro-crusher) again. you want me to provide an actual website comprised of the many fallacies you commit? will that be enough? fine, here you go:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

while slightly flawed (a few things are mislabeled but that's all) that should be plenty for you to look over. once you read that then come back and learn to argue properly. note that this website should be added to the epro-crusher. if you can read that and still not believe that your vids are a pile of shit then you clearly didn't read it so read it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCd0qNbinWI&annotation_id=annotation_203409&feature=iv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJEnIWMZdB0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1CkXxwf0Y

1313Jr.1313
29th December 2009, 12:26 PM
holy shit... that is just as bad as the other videos. we have two people who ADMITTED to being fucked up while experiencing their experience with demons and the classic biblical misquote comic. 1 and 3 prove themselves wrong ON THEIR OWN and the second one is just blatant misquoting. i'm sure that these are just to troll, but this is a new low... even for you.

eprotophilia
29th December 2009, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
holy shit... that is just as bad as the other videos. we have two people who ADMITTED to being fucked up while experiencing their experience with demons and the classic biblical misquote comic. 1 and 3 prove themselves wrong ON THEIR OWN and the second one is just blatant misquoting. i'm sure that these are just to troll, but this is a new low... even for you.LOL blatant misquoting? Misquoting what? How did they prove themselves wrong? What have they misquoted from the bible? I gave you enough evidence to look at and research for yourself but I don't know what else I have to prove to you. It seems like to me you don't want to believe regardless of who tells you but thats you.

Kanye just said he sold his soul to the devil. Is he misquoting? LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ABsbS1uggI

1313Jr.1313
30th December 2009, 12:54 PM
1, nobody said they misquoted the bible. are you telling me that there's only one source for that comic? if so then enough said.

2, again, nobody said i don't believe in god. stop acting like you're actually that stupid.

3, that wasn't video 2, now was it? you are now misquoting me by implying that it was. here's a link that will help put some perspective on the idiocy that is those "personal stories" involved with the devil and light bulbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqDZUCMgf5Q

hopefully you realize how dumb you look, but if you don't then i'll be ready to hand you your ass on a silver platter yet again.

--also, you edited that twice? it was wrong anyway, did you have to edit it to make it wronger? seriously?

eprotophilia
30th December 2009, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by 1313Jr.1313
1, nobody said they misquoted the bible. are you telling me that there's only one source for that comic? if so then enough said.

2, again, nobody said i don't believe in god. stop acting like you're actually that stupid.

3, that wasn't video 2, now was it? you are now misquoting me by implying that it was. here's a link that will help put some perspective on the idiocy that is those "personal stories" involved with the devil and light bulbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqDZUCMgf5Q

hopefully you realize how dumb you look, but if you don't then i'll be ready to hand you your ass on a silver platter yet again.

--also, you edited that twice? it was wrong anyway, did you have to edit it to make it wronger? seriously?The video clearly shows worldly logic. They speak nothing of the bible to compare their "near death experience". The bible says lean not to your own understanding. They don't talked about God or Jesus they simply talked about their egotistical stories that differ from every human on earth. You can't even compare that to the other video I shown because the guy on that video talks about worshipping demons which is of the devil not a near death experience. The devil will deceive you into a whole load of bullshit just to distract you from the truth and truth is, the devil is real just as God is real and you either go to heaven or hell and speaking of them saying they seen a bright light or angels. The devil presents himself as light to fool you. Which is something you don't believe either because he already fooled you into thinking that Obama is good and that the government is even better. Just because they present themselves as the good guy doesn't mean in anyway that their truly a good person. Nice try tho, most likely these people never picked up a bible and read it. Their just like you with their wordily logical opinions about God and try to modify it as truth which is a lie. 13 you suck, try again, this time show some truth.

1313Jr.1313
31st December 2009, 02:00 PM
the video is true by the same logic that your is. now either you admit that your other video is full of shit or you concede that we all get raped by a horse when we die.

now, you're saying that the devil will deceive me into bullshit to distract me from the truth, but you're trying to deceive me into bullshit to try to distract me from the truth. by that logic you are the devil. now, show your proof for this crap or stop talking about it. i've already disproven everything you've posted thus far WITHOUT EVEN QUESTIONING where in god's name you keep coming up with this crap. everything you just said has already been disproven by me using simple facts... not by the devil, not by god, not by obama, not by your imaginary friends the freemasons and illuminati, but by me. i have shown you the error of your ways and you refuse to repent... how christian of you.

by the way, why do you keep saying that jesus christ went to hell? that doesn't make any sense to me so i would like you to explain how jesus christ ended up there despite being the son of god.

eprotophilia
22nd May 2010, 12:52 AM
the video is true by the same logic that your is. now either you admit that your other video is full of shit or you concede that we all get raped by a horse when we die.

now, you're saying that the devil will deceive me into bullshit to distract me from the truth, but you're trying to deceive me into bullshit to try to distract me from the truth. by that logic you are the devil. now, show your proof for this crap or stop talking about it. i've already disproven everything you've posted thus far WITHOUT EVEN QUESTIONING where in god's name you keep coming up with this crap. everything you just said has already been disproven by me using simple facts... not by the devil, not by god, not by obama, not by your imaginary friends the freemasons and illuminati, but by me. i have shown you the error of your ways and you refuse to repent... how christian of you.

by the way, why do you keep saying that jesus christ went to hell? that doesn't make any sense to me so i would like you to explain how jesus christ ended up there despite being the son of god.The information is out there for you to research and find out yourself that occult organizations exist and the devil is real you just want to stay ignorant. I don't have to prove it to u do your research

1313Jr.1313
22nd May 2010, 12:07 PM
you're just repeating what you've already said and what i've already disproved. if you want to stay ignorant then do so but don't come on here and try to persuade others to be as dumb as you are. you keep telling me to do my research then after i do and come up with a 100% infallible argument you say it doesn't count because you can't possibly come up with a rebuttal. congratulations, i have no respect for you.

if i was given 4 months to research and come up with evidence to support my argument i'd probably come up with more than "you're wrong and stupid and if your thoughts are different then mine you're wrong." in fact, i know of a fairly famous guy whose exact line of reasoning seems to work out just like yours.

eprotophilia
22nd May 2010, 05:23 PM
you're just repeating what you've already said and what i've already disproved. if you want to stay ignorant then do so but don't come on here and try to persuade others to be as dumb as you are. you keep telling me to do my research then after i do and come up with a 100% infallible argument you say it doesn't count because you can't possibly come up with a rebuttal. congratulations, i have no respect for you.

if i was given 4 months to research and come up with evidence to support my argument i'd probably come up with more than "you're wrong and stupid and if your thoughts are different then mine you're wrong." in fact, i know of a fairly famous guy whose exact line of reasoning seems to work out just like yours.Look it up: Mason, Illuminati, occult, New Word Order, All Seeing Eye, cabal, Pagan, Deity,Baphomet, Witchcraft, Church Of Satan.

Disapprove all these words and terms.

1313Jr.1313
23rd May 2010, 09:10 AM
read my post before responding to it.

eprotophilia
23rd May 2010, 09:16 AM
read my post before responding to it.Ok...

1313Jr.1313
24th May 2010, 06:18 AM
that's what i thought.

eprotophilia
19th June 2010, 06:38 AM
that's what i thought.I still didnt read it lol & Im still waiting on your video presentation to prove that Jesus, God, Illuminati, Masons, Jesuits, Satan, New World Order, Occults, antichrist and Secret Societies, dont exist & everythings going to be ok & everything is going to get better in the world and Obama is going to save us and make the world a better place to live.

1313Jr.1313
19th June 2010, 11:12 AM
you still haven't read my post... i mean, seriously, you've had over 3 weeks to do so at this point. i read what you had to post and responded accordingly. if your next post is yet more proof that you haven't read my post then you're literally going out of your way to prove that you are an idiot.

eprotophilia
19th June 2010, 08:07 PM
you still haven't read my post... i mean, seriously, you've had over 3 weeks to do so at this point. i read what you had to post and responded accordingly. if your next post is yet more proof that you haven't read my post then you're literally going out of your way to prove that you are an idiot.Rite Im an idiot cuz I didn't read your post thts basically tellin me that its all flawed and made up after I gave you the information to look up and find out. Im ignorant, slow, retarted and dumber than a 5th grader in your logic. Wow 13 your the smartest most intelligent person in the world. Dang I wish I could be like you LOL.

1313Jr.1313
20th June 2010, 10:23 AM
i'm sure you meant to use real words there so i'm just going to pretend you did. you quoted my post without touching on anything therein. you gave me a start on finding out information (according to you) which i ran into a dead end and upon pointing it out you simply ignored me. quote me having called you retarded. i called you ignorant because you are GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY to IGNORE the content of my posts. that, by definition, makes you ignorant. i called you slow because it's been 3 weeks and you couldn't come up with anything better than this. that would also make you an idiot and this would be me calling you so. in fact, if you look at what you quoted, you literally quoted me telling you that if you post what you did after the quote then you are going out of your way to prove your own idiocy... if you feel that i'm so smart simply because i can use basic reasoning skills and have the ability to research things, then you are fighting an uphill battle.

eprotophilia
22nd June 2010, 11:27 PM
i'm sure you meant to use real words there so i'm just going to pretend you did. you quoted my post without touching on anything therein. you gave me a start on finding out information (according to you) which i ran into a dead end and upon pointing it out you simply ignored me. quote me having called you retarded. i called you ignorant because you are GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY to IGNORE the content of my posts. that, by definition, makes you ignorant. i called you slow because it's been 3 weeks and you couldn't come up with anything better than this. that would also make you an idiot and this would be me calling you so. in fact, if you look at what you quoted, you literally quoted me telling you that if you post what you did after the quote then you are going out of your way to prove your own idiocy... if you feel that i'm so smart simply because i can use basic reasoning skills and have the ability to research things, then you are fighting an uphill battle.Well u can go to his website theindustryexposed.com and call him just about the same names and prove to him the same way you proved to me that this is all made up, dumb, ignorant and flawed and see what kind of results you can receive from him. Maybe he might just be 10x more ignorant, flawed, slow & dumb just like me. Give it a try.

1313Jr.1313
23rd June 2010, 05:35 AM
did you not read my post? i specifically told you (in one of my posts) that he does not respond to questioning emails and does not allow commenting without approval. i have left many comments pointing out flaws in his reasoning and they have not seen the light of day. not once did i leave an insult (just as i didn't at first to you who i simply thought was misinformed as opposed to ignorant as well). i simply asked him to explain the flaws in his own reasoning and not only did he not, but my comments never made it to the page (or were immediately removed). even though we're not on the same page, i have yet to ban your account, close your threads, or censor you in any way, shape, or form. if you find a flaw in my reasoning then the world (at least the world of our fetish) will see that i am wrong and i have no problem with that. this guy, on the other hand, is not allowing anybody to question him unless he already has the perfect response ready (i'm assuming as i have yet to actually see this come up). so like i said, you are following a guy with a closed mind who refuses discussion outside of how right he is.

eprotophilia
25th June 2010, 04:56 AM
did you not read my post? i specifically told you (in one of my posts) that he does not respond to questioning emails and does not allow commenting without approval. i have left many comments pointing out flaws in his reasoning and they have not seen the light of day. not once did i leave an insult (just as i didn't at first to you who i simply thought was misinformed as opposed to ignorant as well). i simply asked him to explain the flaws in his own reasoning and not only did he not, but my comments never made it to the page (or were immediately removed). even though we're not on the same page, i have yet to ban your account, close your threads, or censor you in any way, shape, or form. if you find a flaw in my reasoning then the world (at least the world of our fetish) will see that i am wrong and i have no problem with that. this guy, on the other hand, is not allowing anybody to question him unless he already has the perfect response ready (i'm assuming as i have yet to actually see this come up). so like i said, you are following a guy with a closed mind who refuses discussion outside of how right he is.Ok then call theforerunner his number is on his youtube channel forget the industryexposed guy I mean what he points out is true about the industry and indeed people do sell their souls for money and fame but this guy doesn't believe in Jesus and that a devil exist which I heard but I watch theforerunner more because he explains the bible better for people to understand, even people who don't believe that Jesus exist and a devil exist and uses real hardcore facts about the industry, the government, etc. What makes him different as well is the fact that the forerunner use to be in the industry when the industryexposed never been so he knws a little more then the industryexposed guy. He hasn't made any videos in a while but what he points out to me after months of research is no surprise at all.

1313Jr.1313
25th June 2010, 06:51 AM
neat... after a VERY small amount of research i found the same problem with commenting on theforerunner. don't believe me? try to leave a comment on one of his vids. it will say that the comment is pending approval. in fact, i have upwards of 8 comments that are still "pending approval" while not one has actually gone through. funny how that works, eh? the guy isn't stupid (if he were then he'd either let me post and try to argue it) but he is closed minded (if he weren't then i'd be able to comment in the first place). if you want to take the word of somebody as fact, then so be it; just know that he is deliberately hiding information from the public and is refusing to look at any information from an opposing perspective (or the comments wouldn't require his approval in the first place) and as such is not the right guy to just believe.

eprotophilia
26th June 2010, 11:14 PM
neat... after a VERY small amount of research i found the same problem with commenting on theforerunner. don't believe me? try to leave a comment on one of his vids. it will say that the comment is pending approval. in fact, i have upwards of 8 comments that are still "pending approval" while not one has actually gone through. funny how that works, eh? the guy isn't stupid (if he were then he'd either let me post and try to argue it) but he is closed minded (if he weren't then i'd be able to comment in the first place). if you want to take the word of somebody as fact, then so be it; just know that he is deliberately hiding information from the public and is refusing to look at any information from an opposing perspective (or the comments wouldn't require his approval in the first place) and as such is not the right guy to just believe.What does the comments have to really do with anything? If anything its better that you argue him on his phone because your not the only one who disagrees and wants to argue him out about the subjects. Even if you or the majority such as yourself who disbelieves, he can careless because he's going to put the truth out there regardless of how you feel about for the past 3 years and you try to put out as many videos as him to debunk the new world order, new age agenda. Im not taking his word for it, Im taking the bible's word for it but thats where you fail to find your research at. Of course you don't believe in God and the bible because it has been rewritten the same ignorant statement as anyone would say to be avert to the bible.. You believe in a college book over a bible any day. What is it exactly that he is hiding, be more specific to your argument. Your too busy talking about comments which has nothing to do with the situation. Even unbelievers like yourself questions him and he allows them to argue about it but it doesn't matter he dosen't want you to rely on him he's to busy telling you to get Christ in your life. He puts all his information on his channel for a reason I bet Alex Jones never does that does he.

1313Jr.1313
27th June 2010, 10:44 AM
believe it or not, disabling the comments has a lot to do with things. by not allowing opposing views to be seen by the public he prevents any people on his side who are skeptical from changing their own views. if all your life you believe the sky is blue, you'll believe it's blue the first time you hear otherwise; but if your whole life it's questioned then you yourself will question it before somebody even needs to say otherwise. the same applies to his deal. all that disabling comments proves is that he can probably come up with more left field facts that one person can't respond to and can simply claim victory based on their lack of a response. if he allows an actual discussion he will have the internet to deal with (where people can look up facts on their own time instead of having to have an answer prepared for the exact year jesus rose from the grave or something stupid like that [not that the event was stupid, but requiring the knowledge of the year is]).

now, asking me to put out 3 years worth of videos to debunk him is like telling me to put out 3 years worth of videos proving that the earth exists or that 1 + 1 = 2 (and not some complex mathematical proof, the common sense version). how would you propose i prove this? the facts speak for themselves both in those hypothetical arguments and in this one you're attempting to have me prove.

now, the bible is meant to be left open to interpretation. anybody who disputes that simply does not understand the purpose of the bible. yes, the bible can inspire man to do amazing things if interpreted in such a way as to do that, or it can be interpreted in such a way as to attempt a mass genocide. the fact remains that neither of these can be taken as the "wrong" interpretation as the bible itself is meant to be taken as beauty itself is (in the eye of the beholder). any attempt to dispute this is simply ignorant as to the meaning of the bible. we both know this. that being said, no facts may be based of of an interpretation therefore spreading your personal interpretation as fact is, by default, false. unless you yourself are god, it is false and there is no exception. he is passing off his personal interpretation of the bible as fact which means any conclusion he comes to based on that is not factual. that doesn't mean it is incorrect, just that it is nowhere near proven and no real evidence has been provided. in other words, you calling me wrong based on what you percieve as my "lack of evidence" is nothing more than proof that what he says is nonfactual.

that being said, of course i believe in the bible. that does not mean that somebody who has read the bible is suddenly incapable of fault. in fact, as stated in the bible, man is flawed. i would go further but it would be fallacious as that was simply gained from my interpretation of the bible. it is not hard fact and i'm not dumb enough to try to pass it on as though it were. you say that i believe in a college book over a bible and yet for some classes the bible IS a college book. your rebuttal? didn't think so.

now, you want me to tell you what he is hiding? that will be easy. he is hiding the fact that the methods he has used to gain his information are fallacious. he is hiding the fact that he doesn't actually have any hard evidence to prove what he says. he is hiding the fact that everything he says is merely speculation and is easily broken down and disproven. he is hiding the fact that he can not actually back up what he says. if he could then comments would be enabled and he'd trounce all of us with said support and yet they aren't. you don't think that comments are relevant, but simply step outside of yourself and think for a second. how would it reflect on me if i simply closed all of your threads right now so i wouldn't have to deal with them? it would be petty to say the least. now take that feeling and consider that he's already done all of that in advance. if that's not a bitch move then i don't know what is.

now, you say that he allows them to argue about it but you can't do so on his space. that is exactly what the comments being disabled represents (quite literally). he's too busy putting out new videos using the same flawed logic to actually fix his logic. you were close, but this isn't horseshoes... it's life. like i said, if you want to believe in this guy then go ahead, just know that pretty much all of his information is flawed and he is a bad source for information. this is fact and has been proven many many times beyond a shadow of a doubt. just keep in mind that every day you believe him blindly as you do it is just another day that you are continuing to be ignorant. if you can live with that and be happy, then go ahead; just don't confuse it for anything other than what it is.

all that being said, who the fuck is alex jones and how is he relevant?

splat
29th June 2010, 01:14 AM
Wait, did you really ask for proof of the denial of something? That's not even possible.

Do leprichauns exist? Unicorns? The Flying Spaghetti Monster?

No? Prove it. Prove that the DON'T exist. You can't. It's simply not possible to prove a lack of existence, unless you're talking about existence in a specific area.

Your logic is absolutely terrible.